The Vegan vs. Omnivore Debate Part 4

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By WildRoseBeef

Digestive Anatomical Differences

Without trying to get too "sciency" on you, there are several issues in this last part of the Debate that I would like to address. These include digestive anatomical differences and health. But first, because I may come across as biased about my own opinions of being a true omnivore and not a herbivore, I would like to say this: We humans are true omnivores. And many vegans get up on their high-horse about that. I will tell you why and explain the facts in comparisons with the true herbivores that exist today.

Stomach Anatomy

We humans are monogastrics. This means that we have a simple stomach designed to break down proteins, amino acids, starch and carbohydrates more efficiently than fibrous material like grains, and other plant material. Vegans argue that the length of time meat is disgested in our stomachs versus vegetables and fruit, since shorter, means that our stomachs are less efficient at digesting meat. Now let me get on my science chair for a minute here: This is false. Plant material containing fibre, cellulose and hemicellulose cannot be efficiently broken down by the peptides and other enzymes our stomachs secrete that makes digesting meat and carbohydrates more efficient. Thus this material is only acting as a "gut filler" making us feel full, but we are not really getting much nutrients out of it. Plant material is said to pass through more slowly than meat, but that is because of the fibre and cellulose material is preventing nutrients from being digested more quickly, as what happens if meat is digested. Cows have a much better time at digesting plant matter because they have microbes in their rumen that enables the break down of fiber and cellulose from tougher plant tissue than the stuff we humans eat. Meat does not need to be in the stomach so long because it is efficiently digested enough that it can pass through quickly, like what happens with many omnivorous and carnivorous animals. The same thing goes for carbohydrate and starch-type foods.

Humans are not herbivores. Two very obvious anatomical differences between the true herbivores and us omnivorous humans exist: Ruminant stomachs like cattle, sheep and goats, and large cecums like in horses and rabbits. We humans have neither of these. We do not have a four-chambered stomach designed to efficiently digest coarse plant matter like grass, leaves, stems and twigs off of plants. We are monogastrics, simple-stomached animals like pigs, bears, raccoons, dogs, and cats. Nor do we have a huge cecum designed to digest and ferment forage like horses and rabbits are able to do. All we have is a tiny, useless piece of flesh attached to the beginning of our large intestine called the appendix. And the appendix does absolutely nothing for us, except occaisonally giving us appendicitis, resulting in having it surgically removed (like we needed it in the first place!).

Intestinal Anatomy

Carnivores have shorter intestinal tracts because they don't need so much length to digest the meat they eat. Most of the food they eat is digested and nutrients absorbed in the stomach and the first part of the small intestine (duodenum). Omnivores have a bit longer small intestines because they are also accounting for the plant matter in their diet. Herbivores are longer yet because of the plant-matter diet they consume. We humans tend to be in between the small intestinal length of omnivores and herbivores. And this is because we do tend to eat more plant matter than meat, though we still eat meat (at least most of us do). Many vegans believe that the longer intestinal tract than most omnivores is what sets us apart from "true" omnivores, and is what makes us "herbivores." But looking at the intestinal tract by itself is not looking at the big picture. As I mentioned above, plant matter cannot be efficiently digested in our simple stomachs. It does move slower through our small intestine, but that's because (again) of the many cellulose- and fibrous-tissue that is difficult to get through to extract many nutrients.

Teeth and Use of Tools

The shape and size of our teeth is of little importance compared to the rest of our digestive system. However vegans claim that our flat molars and larger incisors are indicators of the reason why humans should be herbivores and not omnivores nor carnivores. And yet, why do we cook our meat instead of eating it raw? Why have we found that fire is good to make raw meat more tender and easier to chew and invented tools like forks, knives, spears, bows & arrows and then guns? What I see, aside from trying to kill each other, is that these tools were found to help us hunt for meat, cut it up and cook it for us to eat. When the neanderthals were around, they had larger canines than we do now, but that was because they were still living like many omnivorous animals do. They ate meat, as well as plants, but did not (yet) have the inventive skills that Homo sapiens later developed. Soon, however, after the neandrethals, did tools get invented to help hunt for big game for the large familes that existed. And we evolved from there. Our canines got smaller because we were eating more cooked meat, and didn't need to have the larger fangs that big cats, bears and wolves do. Our molars got flatter because of the cooked-meat diet, as well as the infusion of fruits, nuts and veggies. And since then, we invented agriculture to make getting our food more easier for us, domesticating animals and plants to grow in what are now stalls, pastures and fields.

Health Issues and Today's Societal Laziness

It is a widely-spread claim by vegans and vegetarians alike that meat and dairy products are unhealthy for you. This is only a claim, backed up by falsehoods that have no relevancy whatsoever. They blame meat and dairy for the increased obesity and health problem rates that have come about these past few decades. And what sort of evidence do they bring to the table to back up their statements? The following:

  • Higher rates of obesity and cardiovascular disease
  • Meat and dairy have higher levels of saturated fats, cholestrol, and animal protein
  • Increases blood cholestrol levels, blood pressure, hypertension, type 2 diabetes, and prostate and colon cancer
  • Eating vegetables is better for the environment because it uses far fewer resources and causes less environmental damage than an a meat-based diet. (Covered later)

The REAL Truth from the Claims

Health Issues of Today's Society

Much of the obesity, cardiovascular disease and cholestrol problems we see today is not really linked to animal protein in itself. It is more due to the increase intake of far more unhealthier foods like processed cheese, potatoe chips, candy, cookies, and other foods high in carbohydrates and sugar. Sucrose, a type of sugar that is commonly used in candy and other processed goodies, is far more unhealthier than healthier sugars like fructose, glucose and lactose. Kids who have obesity issues tend to gorge themselves on diets high in carbohydrates and sugar and fast food, not getting enough healthier dairy, fruit, vegetable or meat products every day instead. Also, our portions have doubled in size from the past as well. The size of meat serving is a big problem, as you see in the Big Macs or the Double Cheese Burger. And these burgers, the groud beef used in them, comes from grain-fed cows and corn. The meat you see in your grocery stores are also from grain-fed, intensly managed animals. Grain-fed cattle are unhealthy creatures, and it has reflected that in the health problems in humans from eating grain-fed beef. Essentially, convinient foods are our downfall. Corn has made our foods convinient, since corn is found in virtually everything we eat, except for fruit and vegetables. The fact that today's society mostly comprises of lazy, computer and TV-dwelling people is what initiated modern conveniences, including the fast food and pre-packaged food we eat.

Much of the health problems we also face is als linked to inadequate excersize and physical activity. Computers, television, satellite television, video games, and other electronics are what makes us couch potatoes. Lack of physical activity is never healthy for anybody, and that also reflects on what and how we eat.

Meat isn't the main cause for health problems and cancer in today's population. It's us. A growing population demands more food to be produced sooner, and this is why we are seeing animals being factory farmed like they are, and fruit and vegetables being produced in mass quantities. It's the fact of Quantity over Quality. And that is also our downfall.

Health Issues of a Vegan Diet

A vegan diet may provide more servings of fruit and vegetables every day, but it also lacks in serveral important nutrients that are found in animal products: iron, vitamin B12, and omega 3 fatty acids. All nutrients are vital to human health and nutrition, and if not supplemented in a vegan diet, will lead to more problems than a person who follows a healthy, balanced diet of fruit, vegetables, whole grains, and meat and dairy products.

Vitamin B12 is not found in any plant-based meal including beans and soybeans. Vitamin B12 is found in animal products like eggs, fish, dairy and beef products. In pregnant women, it is essential for the healthy development of fetal neurological system, and also neurological health in people themselves. Unreliable sources for V B12 include Tempeh, seaweed, spirulina, organic produce, soil on unwashed vegetables, and intestinal bacteria.

Iron deficiencies are also common in vegan diets. Iron tends to be less well-absorbed in vegetarian diets than omnivorous diets, and those who exclude all animal-based sources from their diets will need twice as much iron to supplement than non-vegans. Iron deficiencies is a much bigger problem in women than men because of the menstral cycles, lactation and gestational periods they often go through.

Omega 3 fatty acids are also low in vegan diets. This is a much bigger issue for pregnant and breast-feeding women on a strict vegan diet, as a deficiency of this leads to lower birth weights and eye-sight problems in children.

So....

Overall, there is good and bad to each diet we follow. However, I would like to say this: most vegans are partly right about the meat we eat. But I only say partly because many vegans tend to generalize that all meat as bad. But it isn't, especially if we loosen our grip on grain-fed meat and dairy products and instead, buy grass-fed beef and dairy products instead. Grass-fed and naturally raised meat products are, by far, healthier than the TV-dinner diet we are so fixated on. Plus, if we ate less carbohydrate and starchy foods like pizza, potatoe chips and hamburgers, and more fruits and vegetables, we wouldn't have as much problems. And for heaven's sake, get off your butt and go out for a walk or bike ride every day! Or go walk your dog for an hour! You'll certainly feel better afterwards!

Comments

Zoey 20 months ago

Hi - excellent articles! I work in animal science and something that I may add to this discussion is fact about conjugated linoleic acids (CLA). They have many health-benefits including prevention of cancer and obesity, and CLA are only found in significant quantities in ruminant meat and milk.

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nettraveller 19 months ago

Yes, a very good hub! Have you read Michael Pollan's "An Omnivore's Dilemma" and Temple Grandin's "Animal Translation" ? Both deal with your favorite subject, in different ways. If you use Amazon, you could even offer them to your readers here.

Since cows can digest plant tissues so much more effectively (thanks to their intestinal or gastric guests), could they ever get constipated on grass, or does it still provide enough indigestible fiber and roughage?

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WildRoseBeef Hub Author 19 months ago

Hi NT,

Thanks for the comment. As a matter of fact I own both books. :)

As for your question, no. Cows are able to efficiently digest grass with their 4-chambered stomachs without any adverse effects like constipation or anything like that. They do well on fibre-rich roughage, so long it is not too woody, like the bark off of trees. However, if the grass is really poor quality, then there may be some problems, but normally grass is good-enough quality that constipation or gut-impaction won't happen.

Zoey, thanks for your comment as well. And thank you for the additional info, I kinda figured I missed something, so thank you for that. :)

Julle 3 months ago

You talk about greens, cows, stomachs... but what about fruit? Humans are really like apes. Apes are 99% fruitarians. Today there is thousands or fruitarian people and it looks like they thrive and has magnificient fitness and halth.

t.brenzel 5 weeks ago

Yeah, I'm with Julie--it's a gross over-simplification to start with a presumption that all herbivores can process any and all plant matter with the same efficiency. Leaving humans aside, there are plenty of plant only eaters that couldn't digest grasses the way horses and cows can . . . . such as a lemur, koala, fruit bat or manatee . . . yet that would not scientifically prove they aren't herbivores .

Even horses and cows have somewhat different processes for digesting grasses.

We humans get so caught up in classification and making "definitive" labels--nature doesn't. Obviously humans have been omnivorous for quite some time, regardless of what our physiology looks best designed for.

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WildRoseBeef Hub Author 5 weeks ago

Thanks for your input, Julia and T.Brenzel.

t.brenzel 5 weeks ago

I'm also curious if you have some citation about the neanderthals larger canines vs. ours evolving smaller and flatter due to cooking our meat . . . or is that your own speculation?

Even if their canines were more pronounced, that's a far cry from comparing them to the spine-piercing, grabbing function of a big cat or even wolf to taking down prey.

The mouth size vs. how wide the jaw opens is also an important part of predation--think how wide a wolf or dog can open to clamp down on something, sort of wrap around a whole limb of a larger animal . . . You really have to account for that as well.

Sorry to go on,:), I'm just fascinated by the specializations of mammal teeth lately! Recently read how teeth in animals started out as all conical --very generic (like alligators, reptiles) and then started to specialize for different mammals as their diets specialized. I believe I was listening to Science Friday on NPR last week, when a fellow talking said the key to human success was that we were such good generalists, not too specific about what we eat or temperatures where we live . . .. whereas some animals are very dependent on (like a koala) their niche food.

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WildRoseBeef Hub Author 5 weeks ago

That's fine, Brenzel, your comments are welcome and it helps to have someone like you to get into the more specifics of such things as jaw and teeth anatomy and how things have evolved from the age of the Neanderthals to the age of the Modern Human.

I think the larger canids statement with the Neandrethals was probably my own speculation, though if it was cited then it would've been either from a National Geographic magazine or somewhere else I read about it that I've long forgotten. :)

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